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Nance Ancestry

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My late father William Herman Johnson used to say, "We have some Nance back in there somewhere" and in March 2015, that Nance ancestry was found on findagrave.com! While Find-A-Grave must be used judiciously, I have found supporting documentation.

The name NANCE has been seen as Nans, Nantz and Naantz as well. According to Chris Nance's post on NANCE (surname) From Around the World regarding DNA research, the Y-DNA Haplogroup I2a Isles B1 Nance line has likely origin in England from 1100 to 1600, and possibly more ancient origins in France or Germany before 1100. The Lyon(s) Family is the closest related to that Y-DNA. The Lyon(s) migration history is from France to Scotland then to America. In the Phylogenic Tree for I2a Isles, Nance is toward the bottom middle. Burks is part of Lyon and Sharp is part of Nance. We need more Nance and Lyon men from France and the UK to Y-DNA test.

Some have Richard Nance (b. 1604-d.1665) of St. Keverne, Cornwall, England, as the father of William, but Y-DNA does not support a relation between the American Nances and those from Cornwall. Thanks to Christopher Nance and Sonia Nance-Roberts for this information. The article "A FAREWELL TO ILLOGAN" - Are we actually descended from the St. Clement Nances? also supports the Y-DNA conclusion that American Nances are not descended from the Cornish Nances. For more information, you can see what was on this page and the discussion that led to its change 18 January 2016, by referring to this Facebook discussion. On August 5, 2016, after further DNA testing, it was found that Richard Nance (b. 1604) is the progenitor of American Nances, but that he is not connected by Y-DNA to the Cornish Nances. Chris Nance suggests that he does not match the Y-DNA due to either NPE (non-parent event) or that he was the bastard son of a Nance woman. For more information, refer to this Facebook discussion. While some have attempted to tie Richard's (b. 1604) ancestry to royalty, Sonia Nance-Roberts sums it up well with this June 18, 2018, statement: "I have found no evidence that would prove any of the mentioned Richards to be the actual one to come over. (If that is the page you are referring to) I don't believe DNA has either, it has only proven that some of the Nances who have DNA tested are related and descend from the same NANCE, but to which NANCE that has not been proven WITHOUT A DOUBT, to my satisfaction" (Source: Facebook).

Richard Nance (b. 1604)
Thomas Tinsley, Sr.
b. 1618

According to Family Legends: Thomas Tinsley - first immigrant to America in his family, Thomas Tinsley (1618-1702) was a participant in Bacon's Rebellion in 1676 and grandfather to Margaret Tinsley Nance (wife of William below). And according to Geni.com (where he is listed as Thomas Tinsley of Totopotomoy Creek) and the archive site of Tinsley Family History, his family tree is traced back considerably.

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Yet, there are questions. The Nance Clearinghouse: Early American Nances -- A Tentative "Tree" raises questions about which William Nance was connected to the Tinsley family. Neither the Feenerty Tinsley tree (which has a lot of Tinsley information) nor the Facebook Group: Descendants of Thomas Tinsley have a Nance connection to the Tinsley family and list Sarah Jackson as the wife of Thomas Tinsley born in the 1640s. The Genealogy.com: Information about Margaret Tinsley lists Margaret as being born in 1672 and as wife of William Nance, but this would make her too young to have Daniel Nance, Sr., as her son as he was b. 1680. It does list her as a daughter of Thomas Tinsley and Grace Pierce Tinsley, a fact that does agree with "VA (Land) Patent Book 8" p. 231, which states, "29 Apr 1692 Wm Nance of James City Co patents 520 a. in said county, s. side of Chickahominy R., adjoining Jno. Randall, Gregory Wells, Mr. Bobby, said Nances Neck, 150 a. being due as marryinge the daughter & one of the coheires of Grace Tinsley, who was sister & one of the coheires of Richard Peirce; being part of 600 a. granted sd. Peirce, 12 Sep 1636 and 370 a. upon the said Nances survey ..." Researcher Sonia Nance-Roberts cites the same book showing a Nance connection to Tinsley though she points out that in the aforementioned Geni.com line, it has her father Thomas Tinsley, Jr., born 1648 and Margaret born 1650! However, a revisiting of the page shows that Thomas Tinsley, Jr.'s birthdate is changed to 1638, but this is still too young for Thomas to be her father and the changing of the date makes me more skeptical of the source. Finally, there is the question of the Family Legends source being reputable as in Family Legends: Reuben Nance -- A soldier of the Revolution and neighbor of Charles Philpott, Sonia Nance-Roberts questions William Nance's migration from England when the most reputable research shows he was born in Virginia and remained there.

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  William Nance, Sr.   Elizabeth Tinsley
(also seen as
Margaret Tinsley
or possibly
Mary Elizabeth Tinsley)
             
  b. 1648
James City, Henrico Co., VA
d. 1727
James City Co., VA
Buried in
Nance's Shop Cemetery
in Charles City, VA.
m. 1685 b. ca. 1650
d. ?
James City Co., VA
Buried in
Nance's Family Plantation
in James City Co., VA.
The burial locations are suspect as couples would typically have been buried in the same location.        
                       
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  Speculated ancestry according to Geni.com
             
DANIEL | 1712 | Prince George | "Bristol Parish Register" -- children Phebe, Eliz, Elinor, Lucy were b. to DANIEL and his wife Elizabeth Nance between 1712 and 1730
(Source: Nance Genealogy Clearinghouse)
Daniel Nance, Sr.   Elizabeth
(maiden name unknown, but speculated to be Royall according to Geni.com)
Was Daniel Nance, Sr.'s, wife's maiden surname Royall? According to Geni.com, her maiden surname was Royall and she was a daughter of Captain Joseph Royall who was a son of Katherine (Banks) Isham. Katherine was first married to Capt. Joseph Royall (father of the Capt. Joseph Royall just mentioned), but she was later married to Henry Isham. Among her and Henry's children are Mary Isham. Mary married Col. William Randolph II. The Randolphs were Thomas Jefferson's great grandparents (and grandparents to his mother Jane Randolph Jefferson). The connection between Elizabeth Nance (wife of Daniel Nance, Sr.) and the Royall family has to be proven, however, for me to claim this connection. This needs more research.
    b. 1680
Nance, Charles City Co., VA
d. 1750
Nance, Charles City Co., VA
Buried in
Nance's Shop Cemetery
in Charles City, VA.
m. ? b. 1686
d. 1750
             
                       
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DANIEL | 1728 | Prince George | "Bristol Parish Register" -- Eliz., d. of Daniel and his wife Mary (sic) Nance, b. 19 Jun 1728
(Source: Nance Genealogy Clearinghouse)
Daniel Nance, Jr.   Sarah
(maiden name unknown) according to Daniel's will, which is more reputable than the claim she was Mary Daniel according to FamilySearch.
According to The Nance Memorial: A History of the Nance Family in General, But More Particularly of Clement Nance, of Pittsylvania County, Virginia, and Descendants, Containing Historical and Biographical Records with Family Lineage by George Washington Nance (p. 339): Daniel Nance, junior, of Prince George county, 200 acres both sides of Picture Branch adjoining upper line of John Nance on the north side of Picture Branch. June 20, 1733. No. 1 5, page 88.
The will of Daniel Nance (1707-1784) dated 13 Jun 1784 (p.1, p.2) mentions wife Sarah, sons Thomas, Daniel and Robert, daughter Nancy and granddaughter Luckey Nance. b. 1707
Prince George Co., VA
d. 13 June 1784
Randolph Co., NC
Will: p.1, p.2
m. ? b. 1710
d. 1771
           
                       
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Thomas Nance, Sr., fought in the Revolutionary War with the Virginia army. However, he is not the same person as Thomas Vaughan Nance, Sr. (See the CAUTION to the right). There is a Thomas Nance who shows up on the United States Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 as a private in June 1777, July 17771, 2 and August 17771, 2 and is listed among Virginians in the Revolution as "Nance, Thomas, 1 CL." (Continental Line) in the "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783" (p. 577, also available here). The name Thomas Nance was on the rolls in September 17771, 2, October 1777, November 1777 and December 1777. However, Valley Forge Muster Roll lists Private Thomas Nance of Virginia in the 5th Division of the 1st Virginia Regiment in Muhlenberg's Brigade in the Company under command of Capt. Callohill Mennis and has this note: "Borne on Roll For Dec. 1777 With Remark - Deserted." This means a Thomas Nance had deserted and returned. There is a Thomas Nance who shows up again on roll as a private of Virginia in October 1779 offering Military Service. And there appear to be multiple Thomas Nances in the "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783" (p. 591): Thomas Nance, Ensign, Bedford Mil., oath May 24, 1779; Thomas Nance, 1 Continental Line; and Thomas V. Nance, 1 Continental Line. Likely the second one - "Thomas Nance, 1 Continental Line" - would be my Thomas Nance. Yet, as mentioned, the deserter was borne on roll for December 1777 (i.e., returned). There is a "Thos Nance" followed by "Thos" listed on the United States Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 as privates in October 1777. Since the second "Thos" is listed without a surname (and the only soldier on that page without a surname) right below "Thos Nance," perhaps he was also a Thomas Nance. And with the date being October 1777, it would support, again, what has been mentioned: that the Thomas Nance who deserted also returned. So, what we know is that Thomas Nance, Sr., served in the Revolution in the 1st Virginia Regiment on the Continental Line both before and after a Thomas Nance deserted and returned. Meanwhile, Sonia Nance-Roberts posited in a Facebook discussion that regarding Thomas Vaughan Nance, "it doesn't look like so far, came back, considering his only Muster roll was in June and H. Pryor is looking for him in Aug.. and I can account for the other Thomas as being there on Muster Rolls Jun, Jul and Aug 1777." William S. Ingram, historian and U.S. Army Veteran, explains how desertion in the 18th and 19th century wasn't what we think of today and implies return to the ranks.

Thomas Nance, Sr.



Revolutionary War Patriot
(verified, but not sure which Thomas Nance he is. Also refer to CAUTION)

CAUTION! Nance researcher Sonia Nance-Roberts offered clarification that my ancestor Thomas Nance was not Thomas Vaughn Nance. They are 2nd cousins, likely, according to Sonia. Further Thomas Vaughan Nance was son of William and Mary (Vaughan) Nance while my ancestor is Thomas Nance, son of Daniel and father of Hudson Nance (from whom I share DNA with anoher descendant as a DNA match). Yet, there were two or three men named Thomas Nance, including both Thomas Vaughn Nance and my ancestor Thomas Nance, who were veterans of the American Revolution.

Documents:
Elizabeth Ann Hudson

According to Nance in North Carolina Census, Marshal and Thomas are sons of Thomas and Ann (Hudson) Nance, and Nancy Nance Thayer is a daughter of Thomas and Ann (Hudson) Nance.

1812 Probate document for Thomas Nance, Sr. (source) b. 1740
Mecklenburg Co., VA
d. August 1811
Randolph Co., NC
Will: p.1, p.2,
additional page

Find A Grave Memorial
m. ca. 1760 b. 1744 in VA
d. 1808
Randolph Co., NC
         
                       
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The Nance Memorial: A History of the Nance Family in General, But More Particularly of Clement Nance, of Pittsylvania County, Virginia, and Descendants, Containing Historical and Biographical Records with Family Lineage by George Washington Nance (p. 329) mentions Robert Nance "[l]ived in Mecklinburg county, Virginia. He had three nephews, Hudson, Marshall, and Thomas, who settled in Randolph county, North Carolina, about 1795." Hudson is mentioned in his father's will.

I have multiple DNA matches with whom I share Hudson Nance, Sr., and Elizabeth "Betsy" (Hubbard) Nance as common ancestors. I (Jamie Johnson) am the 5th cousin, once removed, of Joseph "Joey" Nance. Hudson Nance, Sr., and Elizabeth "Betsy" (Hubbard) Nance are his 4x great grandparents and my 5x great grandparents. This was verified by a DNA match at FTDNA and 23andMe. Similarly, I found a DNA match to Susan Nance Albright who shares Hudson Nance, Sr., and Elizabeth "Betsy" (Hubbard) Nance as common ancestors. I am her 5th cousin once removed. I also share Hudson (potentially) and Betsy as common ancestors with the following DNA matches: Kelly Lallis, Wayne Trogdon, Matthew Nance, Mason Nance, David Compton, Robin Hall, Karen Duncan-Pagano, Terence Mayben, Barbara Hedspeth and Rebecca Sanders Clemons.

Hudson Nance, Sr. 1790 Census Elizabeth "Betsy" Hubbard According to Nance in North Carolina Census, Hubbard, Thomas, John and Hudson, Jr., are sons of Hudson and Elizabeth (Hubbard) Nance, and Elizabeth is a daughter of Hudson and Elizabeth (Hubbard) Nance. The will of Elizabeth "Betsy" (Hubbard) Nance mentions daughters Anna (Nance) Keerans/Kearns (below) and Sally Jackson (married Henry Jackson). The 1800 census cited in the gray box below mentions daughter Laura. All of the children are mentioned together in part of a November 1858 petition for the probate for Hudson Nance, Sr. Laura married a Keerans and was intestate during her mother Betsy's life (Source: North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998).
A page from Hudson's 193-page estate document mentions his children, including "Anna Kearns ^his daughter, widow of John Keerans". Hudson died intestate and the court proceedings over his estate lasted several years, a span which included the death of his son-in-law John C. Kearns 2 years later. b. 3 March 1766
Mecklenburg Co., VA
d. 18 October 1856
Randolph Co., NC
Buried at North Bend Cemetery
in Jackson Creek, Randolph Co., NC
m. ca. 1790 b. 27 May 1769 in VA
d. 18 August 1860
Randolph Co., NC
Buried at North Bend Cemetery
in Jackson Creek, Randolph Co., NC
Will: p.1, p.2
       
An article in The Greensboro Patriot, Greensboro, North Carolina, 17 Aug 1860, Fri, Page 4 shows John Ingram filed suit against the Nance brothers Hubbard and Thomas, sons of Hudson and Elizabeth (above).                
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John Crawford Kearns (Keerans), Sr.

The book The Saga of the Family and Descendants of David Vestal Henley and Eleanor Lassiter of Randolph County, North Carolina (by Eleanor Parker Bell) says Anna was from Montgomery Co., NC.

Anna "Annie" Nance

Much thanks to researcher Cheri Dunaway Smith for finding this generation. Further, the book The Saga of the Family and Descendants of David Vestal Henley and Eleanor Lassiter of Randolph County, North Carolina (by Eleanor Parker Bell) supports both John C. Kearns as the son of Isaac Kearns, Sr., and John's marriage to Anna Nance.

        b. 27 May 1794
Randolph Co., NC
d. 2 September 1858
Randolph Co., NC
Buried at Salem UMC Cemetery
Martha, Randolph Co., NC
tombstone

Find A Grave Memorial
m. ?

I have multiple DNA matches with whom I share common ancestry in John Crawford Kearns and Anna Nance Kearns. Carol Bagley, Ralph Eury, Emily Thornburg, Jim Royal, Marsha Little, Connie Graham, Linda Kerns, Tammy Lassiter and Paul Scott Kearns.

b. 30 June 1797 in NC
d. 24 December 1874
Randolph Co., NC
Buried at Salem UMC Cemetery
Martha, Randolph Co., NC
tombstone
Estate Document
Find A Grave Memorial
Anna is mentioned in her mother's will.

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Information from Nance in North Carolina Census:

1790 Hillsborough District, Randolph County, North Carolina -  Pg. 100 written 304
Line 21 Hudson NANCE(**) 1 0 0 0 0 1 
1 Free White Male over 16 (Hudson 24 b. 03 Mar 1766)
1 Total
(**Son of Thomas NANCE and Elizabeth Ann HUDSON)

1790 Hillsborough District, Randolph County, North Carolina -  Pg. 100 written 304 
Line 25 Thomas NANCE(**) 2 1 3 - 1 7
2 Free White Males over 16 (Marshall 19 b. 12 Dec 1771, Thomas 50 b. abt 1740)
1 Free White Male under 16 (Thomas 8 b. 08 Oct 1782)
3 Free White Females (Jane 12 b. 29 Jan 1778, Elizabeth 21 b. 27 May 1769, Elizabeth (Ann (HUDSON)) 50 b. abt 1740)
1 Slave, 7 Total
(**Son of Daniel NANCE II and Mary (MNU))

1800 Salisbury, Rockingham, North Carolina, Pg. 443 written 634 Unknown Township
Line 8 Hudson NANCE(**) 20010-20010-00 
2 Free White Males under 10 (John 10 b. abt 1791, Hudson <1 b. 28 Feb 1800) 
1 Free White Male of 26 and under 45 (Hudson 34 b. 03 Mar 1766) 
2 Free White Females under 10 (Anna 3 b. 30 Jun 1797, Laura abt. 5 b. abt. 1795) 
1 Free White Female of 26 and under 45 (Elizabeth"Betsy" (HUBBARD) abt. 29?) 
0 Free Colored Person, 0 Slave
(**Son of Thomas NANCE Sr. and Elizabeth Ann HUDSON)

1810 Randolph County, NC Page 176 written 42
Line 19 Hudson NANCE(**) 22001-12001-0-0 
2 Free White Males under 10 (Thomas 9 b. abt. 1801, Hubbard 3 b. 09 Jun 1807) 
2 Free White Males of 10 and under 16 (Hudson 11 b. 28 Feb 1800) 
1 Free White Male over 45 (Hudson 44 b. 03 Mar 1766) 
1 Free White Female under 10 (Elizabeth 2 b. abt 1808) 
2 Free White Females of 10 and under 16 (Anna 13 b. 30 Jun 1797, ??) 
1 Free White Female over 45 ((Elizabeth "Betsy" (HUBBARD) abt. 35 b. abt. 1775)) 
0 Free Colored Person , 0 Slave
(**Son of Thomas NANCE and Elizabeth Ann HUDSON)

1820 RANDOLPH COUNTY CENSUS IS MISSING FROM MICROFILM ROLLS???
Possibilities of Randolph County taken from other census deductions.
1820 Randolph County NC (might look like, 1820 missing)
Hudson NANCE 010101-01001 
1 Free White Male of 10 and under 16 (Hubbard 13 b. 09 Jun 1807)
1 Free White Males of 16 and under 26 (Thomas 19 b. abt. 1801)
1 Free White Male over 45 (Hudson 54 b. 03 Mar 1766) 
1 Free White Female of 10 under 16 (Elizabeth 12 b. abt 1808) 
1 Free White Female over 45 (Elizabeth "Betsy" (HUBBARD) abt. 45 b. abt. 1775)

1830 Regiment 1, Randolph, North Carolina Page 26
Line 3 John KEERNS 1220100000000-0200010000000
1 Free White Male under 5 (?)
2 Free White Males of 5 and under 10 (John 5 b. 10 Jun 1825, Alexander 9 b. 14 Apr 1921)
2 Free White Males of 10 and under 15 (Hubbard 12 b. 14 Nov 1818, Larkin 14 b. 23 Oct 1816)
1 Free White Male of 20 and under 30(*) (John 36 b. 29 Mar 1794)
2 Free White Females of 5 and under 10 (Martha 7 b. 17 Aug 1823, Elizabeth 11 b. 17 Apr 1819)
1 Free White Female of 30 and under 40 (Ann (NANCE**) 33 b. 30 Jun 1797)
(*Miss-coded?)
(**Dau. of Hudson NANCE, Sr. and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUBBARD)

1840 Randolph County, North Carolina - Schedule of the whole number of Persons 
within the Division allotted to Thomas Hancock by the Marshal of _______ District
(or Territory) of North Carolina, Pg. #066 Southern Division M704 Line 28 John KEARNS 
0211001000000-0102001000000
2 Free White Males of 5 and under 10 (William T. 5 b. 1835, Branson 8 b. 1832)
1 Free White Male of 10 and under 15 (John 15 b. 1815)
1 Free White Male of 15 and under 20 (Alexander 19 b. 1911)
1 Free White Male of 40 and under 50 (John 46 b. 29 Mar 1794)
1 Free White Female of 5 and under 10 (Rebecca 9 b. 1831)
2 Free White Females of 15 and under 20 (Martha 17 b. 1823, ??)
1 Free White Female of 40 and under 50 (Ann (NANCE**) 43 b. 30 Jun 1797)
(**Dau. of Hudson NANCE, Sr. and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUBBARD)

Schedule I. Free Inhabitants in Southern Division in the County of Randolph State of NC enumerated 
by me on the 15th day of October, 1850 Jno. R. H. Brown Ass't Marshal PAGE NO: 150a REEL NO: 641 
22 1006 1018 John KEERAN, 53, M, North Carolina
23 1006 1018 Anna (NANCE**) KEERAN, 52, F, North Carolina
24 1006 1018 Branson KEERAN, 18, M, North Carolina
25 1006 1018 William KEERAN, 15, M, North Carolina
26 1006 1018 Martha KEERAN, 20, F, North Carolina
(**Dau. of Hudson NANCE, Sr. and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUBBARD)

1860 NC CENSUS
Western Division, Randolph, North Carolina 197
27 882 867 Anna (NANCE**) Keerans  62, NC 
 Martha Keerans  30 
 Eveline Keerans  5/12, NC
(**Dau. of Hudson NANCE, Sr. and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUBBARD)

NOTE: This page relies mostly on Find-A-Grave for its information. Find-A-Grave is known to not always have valid information, so consider this information bearing that in mind. In the meantime, I search for supporting documentation.
                       
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descendants through son Silas K. Kearns via his marriage to Sara(h) Lassiter
           
Developed in March 2015.