Charles Florence Fisher Ancestry

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The evidence suggests that my Fishers were from Germany, though there were Fishers from England as well as per this article regarding the Fisher surname. My conclusion of the German origin of my Fishers is supported by a letter written to "Gee Gee" on October 11, 1977, where the writer indicates the Fishers "came from an area between the Netherlands and Germany. The family allegedly got into trouble with the authorities for poaching on Royal property." It also mentions an eyewitness account Hessian soldiers in the American Civil War. S.P.D. spoke to a Civil War expert who said that there were German immigrants that fought on the Northern side. The Yankees would recruit them off of the boat in exchange for citizenship. This occurred with Irish immigrants, too. The Civil War expert also mentioned "Howard's Cowards" who fought in Gettysburg and elsewhere (Related article: The "German" XI Corps at Gettysburg July 1, 1863 by Patrick Young, esq.). Those troops may have either been from Hesse, or the term "Hessian" may just have been the old one for Germans in general.                 Daniel T. Rogers echoes some of this tree on his site.
                         
                         
      This line of Crabills is from Shenandoah Co., VA, a different family than the Crabills who married into the Mauck family in Shenandoah Co. and subsequently moved to Harrison Co., Indiana (Wolph, 1980).
Susannah Crabill

I have multiple DNA matches with whom I potentially share common ancestors Johann Philipp Pitman and Susannah Crabill Pitman. Dennis Hickerson, Ricky Holsinger, Cecilia Ford and Shyley Waterman.


Johann Phillip (Philip) Bittmann (Pitman)
       
  The archive of one tree has Friedrick Fischer (b. ca. 1710) and Sybilla (?) as George Fisher's parents, but per Daniel Bly, there is no evidence or documentation that proves George Fisher, Sr. (d. 1814) was their son.

Geni.com: Shenandoah Valley Settlers

b. 1745
d. 1 Feb. 1821
m. ca. 1770
Shenandoah Co., VA.
Both buried in old
Baker homestead
along North Mtn.
about 2 miles
northwest of
Strasburg, VA.
b. 16 Nov. 1741
Framersheim,
Alzey-Worms,
Rheinland-Pfalz,
GERMANY.
Came to Philadelphia
on Prince of Wales
5 Nov. 1764.
d. 1 or 11 May 1820
       
                         
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Carolyn Fisher Johnson, my mother, says the Fishers "were Amish in PA. Some went mid-west and some south."

Per Daniel Bly: The evidence that old George Fisher, Sr., (d. 1814) came from Lancaster County, PA, (and there was no other George Fisher, Sr., in the area at that time) is found in a deposition he made 8 Aug 1803, in the Shenandoah County chancery case of John Smith vs. Adm of Abraham Kendrick. On pages 34 and 35 of the chancery file, you can find the digital copy of the deposition with George Fisher's signature on it. He states in regard to a man named Henry Weaver of Lancaster County that "twenty eight years since" (i.e., from 1803) he was living near Henry Weaver, brother of Abraham Kendrick's wife -- and goes on to recall conversation regarding a child that Kendrick's wife had by another man.

Old Fisher Album, which appears to feature descendants of George Fisher and his second wife Mary Gochenour (m. 4 January 1791 as seen in Shenandoah County Marriage Records). Refer to the George Fisher family tree (source: FamilySearch: 1, 2) and David Fisher family tree (source: Martha Baker Jones). The pictures include those of Samuel Fisher, Sr. (b. ca. 1803-1810), and Samuel Fisher, Jr. My fellow Fisher researcher and descendant S.P.D. says that Samuel Fisher, Sr., appears to have been a son of David and Susannah (Snapp) Fisher (i.e., not David's half-brother in the case of being a son of George and Mary Gochenour Fisher). Samuel went from Virginia to Indiana and then on to California, quite remarkable for his time!
George Fisher, Sr.

He is also seen as Johann George Fischer, Sr., though the FamilySearch profile has some conflicting information. My ancestor was indeed George Fisher, Sr., and documented evidence (see left and below) support that, but also support an 1814 death year, meaning the profile's death year of 1835 is incorrect.

  Catherine
(maiden surname unknown)
After Catherine died, George married Mary Gochenour. After Mary died, he married Barbara Beidler/Beydler/Rader (Sources: George Fisher Family Tree, FamilySearch, Desendants of David Fisher and Shenandoah Co., VA, marriage records).
Peter Snapp




Revolutionary War Patriot
Peter Snapp was on the muster list of Alexander Machir's Militia Company from Strasburg District of Shenandoah County, Virginia, during the Revolutionary War.
Catherine Copenhaver
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Christian Funkhouser, Sr.
I have a DNA match with whom I share common ancestor Christian Funkhouser. Leslie Marangoni. I have multiple DNA matches who share Christian and potentially Barbara as common ancestors. Terri Gould, Kintina Chapman, William Mault, Kathleen Martin, Linda Lynch, Pamela Young, Carol Farmer, Sharon Cardona, Anna Thaell, Willa Clements, S. Ford, Lisa Totten, Catherine Hiatt, Terry Brown and Kelly OBeirne. I have a DNA match, also, who only matches Christian Funkhouser. Kristi Mathias.
Barbara Layman (Lehman)
After Barbara died, Christian Funkhouser married Catherine Stover, daughter of my ancestors, Jacob and Catherine Bowman Stover. The daughter Catherine Stover's first husband Reuben Boehm had died. - James Arthur Johnson
Signatures of George Fisher, Sr., from 1803:

b. 1740 to 1750
d. 4 May 1814
Last Will and Testament
A will dated 13 April 1814 and proved 9 May 1814 lists George's wife as Barbara (FamilySearch; he had multiple wives) and children as George, Adam, David, John, William, Martin, Samuel, Rebecca (m. John White), Sarah, Elizabeth (m. John Kohenour), Catharine (m. Mathias Stover), Susannah (m. John Johnson), Rachel, Anna and Christina
(Source: FamilySearch). Will of George Fisher of Stoney Creek (Source: FamilySearch).
m. ca. 1770 b. 1740 to 1750
d. 30 Sept. 1790
  b. 1754
in Frederick Co., VA
d. December 1789
in Shenandoah Co., VA
m. 11 March 1782 b. 16 January 1763
d. 23 July 1846
in Shenandoah Co., VA,
buried at Funk Cemetery, Fishers Hill, VA
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b. 1745, Tumbling Run, Shenandoah County, VA
d. 1818, Tumbling Run, Shenandoah County, VA
m. 21 June 1774 b. 1756, Shenandoah Co., Virginia
d. ca. 1804 (before 1805), Shenandoah Co., VA
 
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David Fisher is the namesake for Fishers Hill, Virginia, where he settled and built a mill on Tumbling Run ca. 1805 (source: p. 40, Shenandoah County Gazetteer & Historical Geography by Irvin D. Magin).

On David Fisher's gravestone, it says, "Our father rests beneath the sod no more earth to roam but oh, how happy is the thought that God will call him home." Located near Fishers Hill, Virginia.

David Fisher: Census Data | family tree

Calvin "Cal" Sonner contacted me in December 2021 regarding Fisher's Mill on Tumbling Run: "Mr. Fisher had an outlet (Store) where he sold produce from the mill in Strasburg." The Strasburg, Virginia, Store Ledger 1852-1853, which he complied, mentions David Fisher on p. 95 (dated September 1852) and p. 135 (dated December 1852). Mr. Sonner also provided me with a picture of part of a feed sack from D.E. Fisher mill. During Sheridan's burning of the valley, 84-year-old David Fisher saved the mill: details (source: Keister, p. 196). According to Mr. Sonner, the mill was converted to an electric generating station for a year or so in the 1920s. The fellow who ran the station died and his wife could not find anyone who knew how or desired to run the equipment. So, generation of electricity there ceased. It's Mr. Sonner's understanding that it supplied electricity to the town of Strasburg.
David Fisher I have a DNA match who shares my ancestors David and Juliana (Snapp) Fisher. Aaron Zito. Susanna Juliana Snapp   Emmanuel Pitman Emmanuel's brothers were Abraham, Jonathan and David. Esther (Ester) Funkhouser Esther Funkhouser Pitman Obituary

Notes on the deaths of Emanuel & Esther Pitman

"Fishers Hill is the high steep hill that you encounter when you go south of Strasburg on Rt. 11. It was originally the site of John Funk's Mill on Tumbling Run, which flows by the foot of the hill.

The property was later acquired by Lawrence Snapp, who left the land to his son Peter, who died in 1789, leaving the land to his two daughters, Margaret and Susanna as well as his wife, Catherine. Susanna got the land along Tumbling Run, including the old mill site and the hill.

Peter's widow Catherine who later married Jacob Funk lived further up Snapp's Run, and Margaret sold her share to Funk. Susanna Snapp married David Fisher in 1805 and he took over the old Funk Mill and operated it for the next sixty years.

During that time the hill where the Valley Pike crossed Tumbling Run and ran up the face, became known as Fishers Hill.

The name more or less became permanent because it was labeled 'Fishers Hill' on maps made during the Civil War. (Courtesy of Daniel W. Bly)"
(p. 63, Strasburg, Virginia: Our History in Post Cards by Gloria Stickley).

Roadside Thoughts: Fishers Hill

b. 20 Jan. 1783
Shenandoah Co., VA
d. 10 or 12 March 1871
Fishers Hill, Shenandoah Co., VA
will info
grave photo
article about grave
Source for dates/locations: WikiTree
m. 25 Sept. 1805
Shenandoah Co., VA
marriage record
Also see Shenandoah County Marriage Records.

David Fisher lived at the site of the old Funk Mill near the mouth of Tumbling Run, in northern Shenandoah County. His wife, Susannah inherited this property from her father, Peter Snapp. The steep hill south of the house and mill is known to this day as "Fishers Hill" and the name has come to apply to the whole area along Tumbling Run (Source for this and marriage date/location: WikiTree).

b. 17 Sept. 1789
Tumbling Run, Shenandoah Co., VA
d. 30 March 1853
Tumbling Run, Shenandoah Co., VA
grave photo
Source for dates/locations: WikiTree
  b. 5 Feb. 1772, Shenandoah, Page, Virginia
d. 13 April 1850, Toms Brook, Shenandoah Co., Virginia
m. 7 June 1796
Shenandoah Co., VA

I have multiple DNA matches with whom I share common ancestors Emanuel (potentially) and Esther (Funkhouser) Pitman. Tim Sams, Katharine Albright Carter Borden, Janet Kearton, Marian Wright, Janell Myrick, M. Suzanne VanGilder, Lisa Jo Warren, Terry Sutherland, Blanche Allen Thomason, Tim Goss, Juliana Rees, Rocky Rice, Naomi Feige, Mia Copp, Kathleen Sherrill, Cindy McPerson, Martoria Stout, Victoria Mohr, Nancy Hammer and David Decker.

b. 16 May 1776
d. 12 Nov. 1853
 
                 
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  Ledger #3 Dated 1898 - Strasburg, Virginia, compiled by Calvin Sonner, mentions Isaac Fisher. Isaac Fisher I have a DNA match who shares Isaac and Susan Fisher as common ancestors. Jeffrey Clow. Susan Pitman
   
    b. 7 June 1814
d. 25 April 1866
grave photo
m. 14 March 1843
(Shenandoah County Marriage Records)
They lived in Fisher's Hill, VA
b. 18 July 1820
d. 12 July 1900
   
             
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  Charles and Mary (Pifer) Fisher are third cousins via their shared great great grandfather John Funkhouser, Sr. (Johannes Fankhauser, Sr.).

In 1880, my 2nd great-grandfather Charles Florence Fisher was working as a farmer. In the previous year, he had been unemployed for 12 months. At the time, Charles was living in Davis, Virginia. The average workweek in 1880 was around 60 hours a week. For a common laborer, the average weekly wage was $8, or $204 in today’s dollars.
(Source: StoryScout on Ancestry.com - 1880 Census data)

Charles Florence Fisher



(an older Charles pictured - colorized version, enhanced colorized close-up)
(picture w/ Charles and Mary)
(picture - reunion)
(picture - tomb)
(picture - tomb close-up)

Mary Elizabeth Pifer
 
      b. 17 Oct. 1855, Tumbling Run, Shenandoah Co., Virginia
(Source: "Virginia Births and Christenings, 1584-1917", database, FamilySearch)
d. 6 June 1917
m. 29 April 1879
(Shenandoah County Marriage Records)
Announcement from May 7, 1879, edition of the Shenandoah Herald, Volume 59, p. 4 (Woodstock, VA): Charles Florence Fisher marriage to Mary Elizabeth Pifer (Source: Ancestry.com).
b. 16 April 1858, Tumbling Run, Shenandoah Co., Virginia
(Source: "Virginia Births and Christenings, 1584-1917", database, FamilySearch
d. 12 February 1936
 
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descendants through son Otto Keiter Fisher via his marriage to Mollie Clara Nash
 
                                 ancestors
                                     
Fishers settled the             Christian       
upper tract of what is now      Crabill (Grabill)  - from Shenandoah Co. - is of a different family
Pendleton Co. WV, pre 1770.          |             than the Crabills who married into the Mauck family  
                                     |             in Shenandoah Co. and subsequently moved to 
                                     |             Harrison Co., Indiana (Wolph, 1980).    
                                     |      
Friedrich      Sybilla(?)       Susannah    Johann Phillip (Philip)
Fischer            |            Crabill  +  Bittmann         Susannah and Johann were married about 1770.
b. ca. 1710        |            (b. 1745    (Pitman)
   |               |         d. 1 Feb 1821) +------------+   Both Susannah and Johann are buried in
   +-------+-------+                        |b 16Nov.1741|   old Baker homestead along North Mtn. about
           |                                |Framersheim,|   2 miles northwest of Strasburg, VA.
           |                                |Alzey-Worms,|
           |                                |Rheinland-Pfalz,
           |                                |GERMANY.    |                    
           |                                |Came to     |             Barbara
    +------+                                |Philadelphia| Christian + Layman   
    |                                       |on "Prince  | Funkhouser  (Lehman) 
    |                                       |of Wales"   | +---------+--------+
George    Catherine     Peter   Catherine   |5 Nov. 1764.| |b. 1745  |b. 1745 |
Fisher  + (maiden       Snapp + Copenhaver  |m. about1770| |to 1755  |to 1755 |
b.1740  | name ?)  (1754-1789)| (1763-1846) |Shen Co. VA | |d. 1818  |d pre1805
to 1750 | (b. 1740            |             |d. 1 or 11  | +------------------+     
d.14 May| to 1750)            |             |May 1820    | |m. 21 June 1774   |
  1814  | (d. 30              |             +-----+------+ +-------+----------+
 m. abt |  Sept.              |                   |                |
 1770   |  1790)              |                   |                |
        +------------+        |                   |                |
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On David Fisher's    David    Susanna             |                |       
gravestone, it       Fisher + Juliana       Emmanuel     Esther (Ester)
says, "Our father           | Snapp         Pitman     + Funkhouser
rests beneath the +------+--+--+-----+      +-----+-----+-----+ CLICK HERE
sod no more earth |b. 20 |m. 25|b. 17|      |b. 5 |m. 7 |b. 16| FOR ESTHER'S
to roam but oh,   |Jan.  |Sept.|Sept.|      |Feb. |June |May  | OBITUARY.
how happy is the  |1783  |1805 |1789 |      |1772 |1796 |1776 | CLICK HERE 
thought that God  |d. 10 |     |d. 30|      |d. 13|Shen.|d. 12| FOR NOTES ON
will call him     |March |     |March|      |April| Co. |Nov. | THE DEATHS OF
home." Located    |1871  |     |1853 |      |1850 | VA  |1853 | EMANUEL &
near Fishers Hill,+------+--+--+-----+      +-----+--+--+-----+ ESTHER PITMAN.
Virginia.                   |                        |         
(Census Data)               |                 +------+
                            Isaac     Susan   |
                            Fisher +  B. Pitman
                             +-----+-----+----+
                             |b. 7 |m. 16|b.18| Susan & Isacc
                             |June |Mar  |July| lived at Fisher's 
                             |1814 |1843 |1820| Hill, Virginia.
                             |d. 25|     |d.12|
                             |April|     |July|
                             |1866 |     |1900|
                             +-----+-----+----+
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                                Charles    Mary
                                Florence + Elizabeth   
                                Fisher     Pifer       
                                +------+------+
                                |b. 17 |m. 29 |
                                |Oct.  |April |
                                |1855  |1879  |
                                |d. 6  |      |
                                |June  |      |
                                |1917  |      |
                                +------+--+---+